MY FALLING OUT WITH SPEER AND VINCE KELVIN

[PUA 9000]

REDMAN PUA IS A JOKE AND A FAGGOT SPEER AND VINCE BITCH BOY RUNNING ERRANDS

Originally Posted by Nilatak

I Facebook messaged this guy and this was his response:

"What post on what forum are you talking about? Please give me a link for that. Nothing is bad here at all because I still live in Project Hollywood. I've met every guru and in my opinion Vince and Speer are the best hands down. I still do live with them.THEY BOTH TAKE TURNS TO FUCK ME HARD IN THE ASS WHEN I DONT OPEN SETS

Thanks for the compliment on the gun photo. I'll never lose the red shirt. CAUSE IM A WHITE TRASH TRY HARD You're entitled to your opinion but I don't care if you like it or not because I can still pull just the same AND VINCE SOMETIMES COMES IN MY ROOM TO CUDDLE WITH ME. That's part of my identity ....being flashy so next time please keep your opinion to yourself.CAUSE IM AN INSECURE GINGERHEAD THAT WHAT YOU SAY MAKES ME CRY

I see Vince pulling new FAT girls every night plus I've seen Speer absolutely get phenomenal results SCAMMING GUYS AND PUTTING A LAME GUY LIKE ME AS A COACH WHEN I DONT KNOW ASS FROM PUSSY AND SPEER SHIT IN MY MOUTH OR DICK IN THE BACK FROM VINCE."



So it's definitely not the same guy who wrote that review or maybe his Facebook account got taken over by puppet master Vince or Sal? It is the guy with the flashy red shirt, but he's not the same one who wrote that report!

[PUA 9000]

redman pua is a faggot living with vince kelvin

[Svall]

Gift for the visitors from Jezebel.com

[BOUNCER]

You guys are right! Speer admits it here
http://projecthollywood.org/2012/07/...-game-post-45/

[Aldo]

Spartan Fury wrote:
The Bad: Vince's temper - It's ridiculous when you're trying to be social and start approaching in situations you didn't before to have a SHORT OLD MAN THAT LOOKS LIKE A CAT RESURRECTED FROM THE PET CEMETERY AFTER BEING SPRAY PAINTED BY PRANKSTER KIDS - YELLING AT YOU ANGRILY about what HE THINKS you should do.

The description is totally accurate. Look at Vince Kelvin's physical appearance:

[Guru of Auto Enroll]

Originally Posted by Aldo

Spartan Fury wrote:
The Bad: Vince's temper - It's ridiculous when you're trying to be social and start approaching in situations you didn't before to have a SHORT OLD MAN THAT LOOKS LIKE A CAT RESURRECTED FROM THE PET CEMETERY AFTER BEING SPRAY PAINTED BY PRANKSTER KIDS - YELLING AT YOU ANGRILY about what HE THINKS you should do.

The description is totally accurate. Look at Vince Kelvin's physical appearance:

The guy in the back really DEEP into state.

[JimJonesWasGod]

Regarldess of how you feel NOW, go back to BEFORE you spent the money and see how open you were to alternatives back then.

SOMETHING convinced you that these guys were your best option. What was that?

Internet advertising? LOL

[Aldo]

Originally Posted by JimJonesWasGod

Regarldess of how you feel NOW, go back to BEFORE you spent the money and see how open you were to alternatives back then.

SOMETHING convinced you that these guys were your best option. What was that?

Internet advertising? LOL

Guys expect a lot from the self proclaimed PUAs: deangelo, mystery, zan, vince kelvin, ... But they tend to become bitter when the results don't follow.

''If I pay the self proclaimed PUA then he will give me magic powers, so that I can stay fat, nerd, ..., and at the same time be successful with women.''

And when the majority of the guys get out of their trance, they're sitting on their sofa, mentalizing, looping on the fact that they lost more than $1000 without actual results.

[JimJonesWasGod]

Originally Posted by Aldo

Guys expect a lot from the self proclaimed PUAs: deangelo, mystery, zan, vince kelvin, ... But they tend to become bitter when the results don't follow.

''If I pay the self proclaimed PUA then he will give me magic powers, so that I can stay fat, nerd, ..., and at the same time be successful with women.''

And when the majority of the guys get out of their trance, they're sitting on their sofa, mentalizing, looping on the fact that they lost more than $1000 without actual results.

It's like the hot chick who complains about the abusive boyfriend, but doesn't give the time of day to a nice guy. Something is causing her to rig the game in favor of the jerks, just like something is causing the customer to rig the game in favor of the marketers.

Now either you are making an implied argument that nothing from any guru would work, or you're ignoring the ones who do offer advice that works because it does not fit your world view.

If you argue that nothing can work, then you're arguing that there is no such thing as "technique," and that human behavior is essentially random. In that case, you'd be aruging that every major university in the world with a sociology and/or psychology department is teaching something that does not exist.

[PuaHateLookFaggot]

Nope.

PUA technique has NOTHING to do with actual sociology/psychology.

[Aldo]

Originally Posted by JimJonesWasGod

It's like the hot chick who complains about the abusive boyfriend, but doesn't give the time of day to a nice guy. Something is causing her to rig the game in favor of the jerks, just like something is causing the customer to rig the game in favor of the marketers.

Now either you are making an implied argument that nothing from any guru would work, or you're ignoring the ones who do offer advice that works because it does not fit your world view.

If you argue that nothing can work, then you're arguing that there is no such thing as "technique," and that human behavior is essentially random. In that case, you'd be aruging that every major university in the world with a sociology and/or psychology department is teaching something that does not exist.

You're implying a lot of things that I didn't write and mean.

[JimJonesWasGod]

Originally Posted by Aldo

You're implying a lot of things that I didn't write and mean.

I'm drawing inferences from the permise that the material is not worth what people charge for it. If it worked for those who use it properly, then it's worth what people pay for it. A gym membership can expirre unused, with no results for the customer, and that's not the fault of the gym.

I'm saying that these complaining customers went in with an attitude that made it impossible for them to get what they claim to seek, which is improved results with women. Much like the hot chick who chooses men in a way that weeds out decent men.

Do you acknowledge that there are valid methods out there which are worth what people charge for them? Do you think every last metohd must fail? If so, you're arguing against technique, and anyone's ability to develop it.

[Aldo]

Originally Posted by JimJonesWasGod

I'm drawing inferences from the permise that the material is not worth what people charge for it. If it worked for those who use it properly, then it's worth what people pay for it. A gym membership can expirre unused, with no results for the customer, and that's not the fault of the gym.

I'm saying that these complaining customers went in with an attitude that made it impossible for them to get what they claim to seek, which is improved results with women. Much like the hot chick who chooses men in a way that weeds out decent men.

Do you acknowledge that there are valid methods out there which are worth what people charge for them? Do you think every last metohd must fail? If so, you're arguing against technique, and anyone's ability to develop it.

I understand your message. In my original message, I wasn't focused on the self proclaimed PUAs and their methods. I was focused on the lazy mindset within our western world.

[JimJonesWasGod]

Originally Posted by Aldo

I understand your message. In my original message, I wasn't focused on the self proclaimed PUAs and their methods. I was focused on the lazy mindset within our western world.

The lazy people of whom you speak are the demand side of the coi. Those who cater to their unrealistic expections are made rich by these folks.

Still, there is nothing wrong IN THEORY with charging $1k for advice, if the advice works. To point to X guru and say their method doesn't work doesn't change that there are those whose ideas do work. With people placing sytle (marketing) over substance (results), this will occur only by accident.

Given that men spend up to 25k a night for an SHB hooker, the information on how to get them into bed is obviously worth a ton. Since most SHBs do have sex with men, somewhere out there are men who have figured out something very valuable.