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07-05-2012, 08:12 AM
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The similarities are endless. For instance, RJ is someone who would fall head over heels for the Scientology bullshit. He's the perfect type - bitter about the natural order of things, life in general, and bitter about his own failings and insecurities, but too piss-weak to man-up properly and do something about it on a real level. Indeed, he sells his own version of self help called Speed Seduction, and NLP is fucking hilarious.

If you read the history of Scientology online through various sources, you get a pretty damning picture of what R. Hubbard was like. Depressed, abandoned, alone, a con man, sneaky, a user of people.

I think that just about speaks volumes of Mystery, for one.

Then there is Dianetics, which has massive similarities with pickup in general.

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"Dianetics was poorly received by the press and the scientific and medical professions.[148] The American Psychological Association criticized Hubbard's claims as "not supported by empirical evidence".[56] Scientific American said that Hubbard's book contained "more promises and less evidence per page than any publication since the invention of printing",[149] while The New Republic called it a "bold and immodest mixture of complete nonsense and perfectly reasonable common sense, taken from long acknowledged findings and disguised and distorted by a crazy, newly invented terminology".[150] Some of Hubbard's fellow science fiction writers also criticized it; Isaac Asimov considered it "gibberish"[67] while Jack Williamson called it "a lunatic revision of Freudian psychology"
Sounds like pickup.

The people who fall for thin propositions like pickup are just idiots. Its a lot of bullshit mixed in with average, run-of-the-mill common sense, with new terms.

Just like Scientology. And often, its really strange.

But what is not strange are the striking similarities between R Hubbard, and early pick-up practitioners, AND in what Dianetics and PUA are about, and how they both go about delivering their ridiculous message.

Also, both tend towards cult-forming behaviours, and the people who fall for cults and get involved are always fools, damaged-souls (who you can feel sorry for often), and people who genuinely love being exploited (they exist, its a form of self-slavery. i.e you have no clue how to lead life yourself so you need someone to tell you 100%)

Dianetics and scientology is really fucked up, and it has so many similarities with pickup. And yet, look at what R hubbard says of Dianetics,
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Hubbard called Dianetics "a milestone for man comparable to his discovery of fire and superior to his invention of the wheel and the arch".
Sounds like speed seduction and general pickup marketing.

These con artists should be rubbed out. But as we can see, there are always suckers, so this site is worthwhile in my opinion.

There are always those who look like followers of a sect, and yet the decend upon it like vultures knowing they can pick out the eyes of fools and morons and idiots who have fallen under the cults/religions/groups spell.


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Several famous individuals became involved with Dianetics. Aldous Huxley received auditing from Hubbard himself,[152] the poet Jean Toomer[153] and the science fiction writers Theodore Sturgeon[154] and A. E. van Vogt became trained Dianetics auditors. Van Vogt temporarily abandoned writing and became the head of the newly established Los Angeles branch of the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation. Other branches were established in New York, Washington D.C., Chicago, Los Angeles, and Honolulu.[155][156]
The sharks of the industry....

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The rest of the industry is just fucked up layer upon fucked up layer. Internet marketers, outside and damaged authors, some skank from london who sees an easy buck....bohemians, the list goes on. All cons, dressing up common advice, creating new terms, and altering perceptions down dark roads.

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07-05-2012, 08:23 AM
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Very interesting article. Thank you "Some Guy".

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07-05-2012, 08:28 AM
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Very interesting article. Thank you "Some Guy".
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07-05-2012, 08:44 AM
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Very interesting article. Thank you "Some Guy".
no probs, glad you enjoyed it .

with cruise being in the paper, and his infamous quip to kidman's friend and reporter peter overton, on 60 minutes, and his divorce to holmes.....scientology has been getting a mention; the 60 minutes interview was intriguing.

Later, I discovered Hubbard, founder, who was one sick fuck

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07-05-2012, 08:49 AM
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this reminds me of that sick bloody movie human ceterpede.

a report on banned movies was run in a local sydney paper last year, so no doubt between work and friends, there were copies floating round.

i cringed through that sick shit, and 100 days of sodomy. no shit, we all turned it off half way through.

were not queazy, just thinking "wtf!" Because those movies were sick as fuck!

I think thats where the pic is from.

One movie we did watch all the way through, which had a cool ending, though it was just as crap was 'Serbia'

great artistic movie in a sense, but seriously fucked up.

BUT - the mere fact you probably went and got a pic of the human centerpede, if thats what it is, is an indictment upon your character.

As in, you used that 'against' me in this great thread...and then you call ALDO what you did.

Mate, get stuffed. You deal with your issues - i have no beef with you.

Comment on the article, or fuck off.

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07-05-2012, 08:52 AM
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Very interesting article. Thank you "Some Guy".
I see you put my name in parenthesis. I'm actually Tom Cruise. Yeah, this is my first stage trying to distance myself from Scientology.

Its quite interesting really, I attend South Sydney matches with Russel Crowe, a rugby league club, where I met the real "Some guy", and he's allowing me the use of this account.

Sound contrived?

Well, just put it all in parenthesis and you are set! - No contrivance!

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07-05-2012, 09:19 AM
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I just want to point something out to people, too. Stick to the topic. And this -

I think it goes to show my level of maturity, understanding, and generally solid level of character and core-mental soundness that I can address such issues where others cannot. It goes a long way to showing why many on here fail with women.

About the Human Centipede - I personally stopped watching it half way through because I thought it was a dumb movie. It was a fair bit sick, sure, but overall it just added up to a dumb movie and I had no desire to see how it finished.

100 days of sodomy - its about libertines during one of the world wars in france who retreat to a chateu and steal male and female teens, then subject them to sex-slavery. Its interesting to see why movies are banned sometimes - a kind of 'why' factor. Well that movie had basically no reason to exist. It was pure bullshit, and the sex acts and insinuations and all that crap throughout, like kids eating their own shit and child-porn , ect is not a reason to make a movie. It had no theatrical value, it should be burnt. It had a bit of a story but it was utterly worthless and describes nothing of any sense or value to a person - it was a waste of time.

Serbia - this movie at least had a good story-line. Yes, it is fucked up as well, but the premise of the story, we are told via reports and from the director is to show someone what its like to feel "punched in the face" physically and emotionally because you were born in Serbia. The movie is highly confronting, and its basically porn and snuff and all kind of uncomfortable sex acts mixed into one big thing, for one purpose - to make the viewer uncomfortable, in an effort to give them the aforementioned 'impact'.

Well it certainly did, and I watched that all the way through, owing to its story-line, and a desire for someone to see the main character 'win', and he certainly does.

At the end, he shoves his horse-steroid-induced errect cock through the villains eye socket.

Do I reccomend watching it? No. I say avoid.

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Because I do not know why someone would choose to put up human centipede pictures - they seriously must have deep issues to do that. It has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread.

That person should seek help.

I personally can watch such movies (out of curiosity for their banned nature) but I do not praise such movies. They should be burnt. They should in fact never be made in the first place - they have no beneficial purpose.

Like I said, I often show more maturity and understanding than many on this board - and my underlying nature is solid, I have few, if any, issues.

The person who put up that picture is a coward and in need of help. He is immature, and he lacks the capacity to engage me on a real level.

If you want to comment on the threads topic, do so, if not. Don't comment.

Stiffmeister is one to pity

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Of course, the similarities between Scientology and pickup are too many and too alike to be a coincidence. Obviously they pick up on the same failing of the human psyche, and its interesting to take a look at it.

Stiffmeisters nonsense aside, seek help you crazy fucker, its a big wonder why so many people fall for the made up terms and disguised common advice. If societies ways are not good enough for you (and this ties into the banned movies theme), you just dont exit society, you become more informed from the correct sources. PUA is not a correct source - its a bullshit source, posing as help, when it just seeks to steal.


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Well it certainly did, and I watched that all the way through, owing to its story-line, and a desire for someone to see the main character 'win', and he certainly does.

At the end, he shoves his horse-steroid-induced errect cock through the villains eye socket.

Do I reccomend watching it? Yes. Absolutely
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sure....sure. like you didnt just make that up.

this is what my article is about. stupid new terms like the ones you used, in order to explain normal every day things.

why couldn't you just say of me - he sucks with bitches because he lacks any semblance of anything good when it comes to women.

but noooo.....you went on like a moron. you need --->

bout time you put down human centipede and read my article. chumpy. looks like you'd be 98% likely to join a silly cult, and - OH LOOK! you already did. hows pickup treating you? got any girls?

there is one book Ive seen that beats hubbards crap hands down - mystery method.

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I dont really get to meet retards like S/meister in real life, so its actually refreshing when I come here and 'converse' with them.

fuck you're a merkin.

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I dont really get to meet enough women, but I like you S/meister, so its actually refreshing when I come here and 'converse' with you.

I want to fuck you like a rabbit.
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The similarities are endless.
I'm sorry, but you're only talking about meta-comments and coincidental similarities. None of your remarks are actually about content. Just because the inventors of two different things are equally depressed, that doesn't make their inventions similar in any way. The inventor of chocolate and the inventor of rubber gloves may have been quite similar as people, but that doesn't turn rubber gloves into chocolate.

Yeah, I know, sense-making is totally unappreciated on this website, but it'd be fun to at least see some sense, once in a while.

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Some guy wrote: ''Of course, the similarities between Scientology and pickup are too many and too alike to be a coincidence. ''

Ross Jeffries in various seminars made comment about scientology and about Charles Manson.

In one way or another I think Ross was jealous of the power that Ron Hubbard and Charles Manson had over women because they were true masters in hypnosis and mind control.

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i go beasting every day. i am always on beast mode and with my great arsenal of negs and nlp skills i go out, fuck shit up, end up with a few names and numbers and i just might get it in with some slut.

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Too bad that interesting threads are polluted by stupid and uninteresting pictures and videos.

Certain guys have nothing to say but they create noise on this forum.

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SomeGuy, just shut the fuck up for the rest of your life.

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I'm sorry, but you're only talking about meta-comments and coincidental similarities. None of your remarks are actually about content. Just because the inventors of two different things are equally depressed, that doesn't make their inventions similar in any way. The inventor of chocolate and the inventor of rubber gloves may have been quite similar as people, but that doesn't turn rubber gloves into chocolate.

Yeah, I know, sense-making is totally unappreciated on this website, but it'd be fun to at least see some sense, once in a while.
i think you are ignoring much.

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Too bad that interesting threads are polluted by stupid and uninteresting pictures and videos.

Certain guys have nothing to say but they create noise on this forum.
people like pualooksfaggot have no clue

its more than likely he is affiliated with some guru, and he is here to run interference than any independant view he holds. fuck, he could be RJ himself.

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Some guy wrote: ''Of course, the similarities between Scientology and pickup are too many and too alike to be a coincidence. ''

Ross Jeffries in various seminars made comment about scientology and about Charles Manson.

In one way or another I think Ross was jealous of the power that Ron Hubbard and Charles Manson had over women because they were true masters in hypnosis and mind control.
Aldo = avid reader of L.Ron Hubbard`s works and supporter of the free-mason, sorry I meant, free-Manson movement

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people like pualooksfaggot have no clue

its more than likely he is affiliated with some guru, and he is here to run interference than any independant view he holds. fuck, he could be RJ himself.
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He actually wrote a book to bless us all with his deep knowledge.

He doesn't even wonder why he's the only guy treated the way he is here. This guy really is a simpleton.

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Interesting analysis, but I think you overdo it.

People fall for scams because they want it to be true.

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In The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick-up Artists, Neil Strauss compares Ross Jeffries, Tyler Durden, and Mystery to L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. He also believed that several of Tom Cruise's alpha qualities stem from the code of ethics promoted by Scientology. Amusing isn't it?

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