advice on the Ross Jeffries 7 day "Bootcamp"

[Awakened4570]

I am married with two kids, but ever since I heard about speed seduction my entire perspective on pua changed. I realized that I settled down with a woman because I have a "scarcity" mindset. I read speed seduction material but I could not fully comprehend it. I am planning to take a loan out against my house to pay the 27,000$ with Ross, so I can fast track learn his techniques. If I cant get the loan I could dip into my kids college fund, its not like they will need it any time soon because of thier age. I wanted to ask other's if they enjoyed the 7 day experiance with Ross to gain some perspective on how it will be.
Thanks guys!

[the original fraud rj]

I'm sure it will be the best investment you ever made.

Be sure to have Paul Ross demo sets for you, hell maybe even his boyfriend Neil $trau$$ will show up and take you shopping.

[Aldo]

"If I cant get the loan I could dip into my kids college fund"??? Are you ready to do that to pay Ross Jeffries???? Don't do that. It's not worth it.

I've studied SS. I can tell you that it takes far more than 7 days to become comfortable with it because speed seduction is built on:

-> Ericksonian hypnosis
-> NLP
-> ritual magick
-> ...

Actually, it takes several years of study and practice to become good at speed seduction.

All the good students of Ross Jeffries: Mark Cunningham, Glenn Hughes, Bishop (his real name is Michael L. Emery. He was already good in NLP in 1981! If you don't believe, read his comment on amazon.com about the book Frogs into Princes: http://www.amazon.com/Frogs-into-Pri...owViewpoints=1), ..., where already good in NLP and hypnosis when they began studying speed seduction, that's why they became good quickly.

Here is what I recommend you: First, read in detail the bishop's journal: these are complete stories, it is the best example of SS in practice (http://www.scribd.com/doc/19090105/e...ishops-Journal). Then, maybe go to a seminar of Ross. You'll receive after that a free copy of the seminar on DVD.

[Stinger]

Originally Posted by Aldo

All the good students of Ross Jeffries: Mark Cunningham.

FYI... Mark taught Ross everything he knew about hypnosis.

[gravitycantforget]

SS is BS

[puassuck]

NLP is pseudo-scientific nonsense, whatever you believe about hypnosis. You are wasting your time and your money, Awakening.

I also wonder how SS is different from rape if it worked. Why would somebody want to learn how to become a cold-blooded rapist/abuser of women? You sicken me, Awakening.

[the original fraud rj]

Outrageous!

If I'm reading this correctly, this FAGGOT is charging $30,000 ($5,000 deposit and $24,999 for the training) for 7 days for training?!!?

This part is fucked...

RJ’s Guarantee: “If We Decide To Work Together And If You Follow My Instruction I Guarantee Your Results, As YOU Define It, Or I’ll Refund Your Money, No Questions Asked”

Work with RJ and let yourself be blown away by the power of his teaching and his transformational change skills.

If you implement my instructions, to the letter, and you find that despite your true best efforts, by the end of our work together you are not achieving the goals you defined, RJ will refund your investment in executive coaching.

Because this is what you get...

Your 7-Day, Deluxe One-On-One Session With RJ

When you upgrade to the 7-day personal training with RJ for $24,997, it gets you:

Life Time free admission for you and a guest to any regularly scheduled Speed Seduction® 2- and 3-day weekend events.

50% all recorded products in RJ’s catalog

Lifetime access to the brand-new Speed Seduction® Secret Training Collection with over 120 laser-focused girl-getting video modules and much more!

6 months of follow up sessions by Skype video: 2 sessions a month for 6 months-a total of 12 hours of additional instruction)

...you can get all of Ross' material via torrents

...why would you Skype with Ross, all he is going to do is have you bark like a dog to control you.

Honestly you are better off taking this money and going to Vegas to get off...

[the original fraud rj]

I just emailed Ross' PA to inquire about executive coaching and this is the response I got:

Hi,

We'd be happy to assist you; your full name is required for inquiries for the executive coaching
program.

Pre-interview questions:

1. Do you own any Speed Seduction(R) courses or have you attended any of the SS seminars?
2. Do you sarge using SS tools?

Lisa
Speed Seduction(R) Support Team

[Awakened4570]

I want to learn SS from Ross. I spoke with him about the 7 day bootcamp via Skype, he is going to crash at my crib. Luckily, we have a pretty nice guest room. I think we are also going to go see that new movie rock of ages. I will give everyone a report on how it goes.

[the original fraud rj]

Hey guy, yr one hell of a troll...

...or...

Hey guy, are you serious!!??!!

Hey guy, have you lost your little mind??!!??

Let me kick u in the nuts, if you even have a pair, to bring you back to reality.

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

I want to learn SS from Ross. I spoke with him about the 7 day bootcamp via Skype, he is going to crash at my crib. Luckily, we have a pretty nice guest room. I think we are also going to go see that new movie rock of ages. I will give everyone a report on how it goes.

[Papa]

Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa-Pa Kho

[the original fraud rj]

Bummer, Ross Jeffries figures out I was trollin'

John,

Paul Ross (AKA Ross Jeffries) has declined to coach you.

Lisa
Speed Seduction(R) Support Team

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Ross Jeff <fraudrossjeffries@xxxxx.com> wrote:

Real name John J. Smith

See comments below:

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Ross Jeffries (Customer Service) <orders@seduction.com> wrote:

Hi,

We'd be happy to assist you; your full name is required for inquiries for the executive coaching
program.

Pre-interview questions:

1. Do you own any Speed Seduction(R) courses or have you attended any of the SS seminars?


I currently own the following for 10 years now: Basic Home Study Course, Handwriting Analysis, and Brother Kamal and Brother Orion Magical Connections and also Bishop Speed Seduction Journal.


2. Do you sarge using SS tools?


Sometimes, I use SS for day game and on day 2 I use it for comfort/seduction. Except I've never been able to get it to work. Women think I'm weird and I don't get anywhere with them.

[Guru of Auto Enroll]

Originally Posted by the original fraud rj

I just emailed Ross' PA to inquire about executive coaching and this is the response I got:

Pics of this Lisa broad plz.

[SoBelleCose]

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

I am married with two kids, but ever since I heard about speed seduction my entire perspective on pua changed. I realized that I settled down with a woman because I have a "scarcity" mindset. I read speed seduction material but I could not fully comprehend it. I am planning to take a loan out against my house to pay the 27,000$ with Ross, so I can fast track learn his techniques. If I cant get the loan I could dip into my kids college fund, its not like they will need it any time soon because of thier age. I wanted to ask other's if they enjoyed the 7 day experiance with Ross to gain some perspective on how it will be.
Thanks guys!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Great mate!Good choice!!!
Please tell me you're a troll,you made me laugh so much!!!

[Aldo]

the original fraud rj, great your idea to write to Ross Jeffries. You could have added to your message: ''Ross, I'm ready to pay $50,000 just for 3 days with you''. I'm wondering what his reply would have been.

Awakened4570 wrote: ''I want to learn SS from Ross. I spoke with him about the 7 day bootcamp via Skype, he is going to crash at my crib. Luckily, we have a pretty nice guest room. I think we are also going to go see that new movie rock of ages. I will give everyone a report on how it goes.''

I'm wondering if Awakened4570 is serious or joking with us. Awakened4570, do you realize what you're going to pay? $24,997 with ABSOLUTELY NO guarantee of results!!! Why? Because when a guy wants to fuck, it's not enough to want it, the girl has to agree.

More precisely, in terms of NLP, your outcome: ''Being with Ross during 7 days means I'm gonna be good with women'', isn't correctly formed because your outcome doesn't only depend on you, it depends on other people (the girls) too.

Ross or other PUA$ can ''teach'' techniques and tricks but ultimately, you're going to do ALL the work by yourself.

Just a question: who's gonna pay for the movie, Ross or You? If it's you: $24,997 + $20.

[Awakened4570]

Ross said that if I pay the speed seduction techniques will BELOW me and it will help me COME on the women in a non creepy way.

[the original fraud rj]

Our good friend Ross figured it out.

Ross Jeffries ross@seduction.com

1:00 AM (17 hours ago)

to me
Hey...moron....when you open the conversation accusing me of being a fraud, do you think I'm so stupid I won't notice it? "Fraudrossjefries"? What the fuck kind of stupid troll are you? Go back to PUASUCKS or wherever you came from.

Idiot.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Ross Jeff <fraudrossjeffries@xxxxxx.com> wrote:



Bummer, I was SOOOOOOO looking forward to working with Ross.

Its his loss.

[Awakened4570]

[Guru of Auto Enroll]

Great thread. Would read again.

[MurdocIsGod]

Why doesn't Ross Jeffries post here anymore?

[Spartan Fury]

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

I am married with two kids, but ever since I heard about speed seduction my entire perspective on pua changed. I realized that I settled down with a woman because I have a "scarcity" mindset. I read speed seduction material but I could not fully comprehend it. I am planning to take a loan out against my house to pay the 27,000$ with Ross, so I can fast track learn his techniques. If I cant get the loan I could dip into my kids college fund, its not like they will need it any time soon because of thier age. I wanted to ask other's if they enjoyed the 7 day experiance with Ross to gain some perspective on how it will be.
Thanks guys!

Good trolling attempt.

[PuaHateBot Bot]

I am now authorized to use physical and mental force.

[mrboxingfan]

Save your money, hes a cult leader and a Psycho, knew him personally. Just download all his shit on TPB and study it. ALONG with Anything 60 years of challenge and KEZIA NOBLES 10 hook lead system and deep connection. Then get mind of mystery and take a look at that. then a johnny sopornos dating multiple girlfriends and love systems relationship management and beyond words.

your done thats all you need. Then when you are good go over swinggcatts sexual connections.

most of its free

Save your fuckin money.

Want a seminar, see Kezia or 60 or soporno

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

I am married with two kids, but ever since I heard about speed seduction my entire perspective on pua changed. I realized that I settled down with a woman because I have a "scarcity" mindset. I read speed seduction material but I could not fully comprehend it. I am planning to take a loan out against my house to pay the 27,000$ with Ross, so I can fast track learn his techniques. If I cant get the loan I could dip into my kids college fund, its not like they will need it any time soon because of thier age. I wanted to ask other's if they enjoyed the 7 day experiance with Ross to gain some perspective on how it will be.
Thanks guys!

[Guru of Auto Enroll]

Originally Posted by mrboxingfan

Save your money, hes a cult leader and a Psycho, knew him personally. Just download all his shit on TPB and study it. ALONG with Anything 60 years of challenge and KEZIA NOBLES 10 hook lead system and deep connection. Then get mind of mystery and take a look at that. then a johnny sopornos dating multiple girlfriends and love systems relationship management and beyond words.

your done thats all you need. Then when you are good go over swinggcatts sexual connections.

most of its free

Save your fuckin money.

Want a seminar, see Kezia or 60 or soporno

Go fuck yourself.

Pimping Kezia. Priceless...

[Aldo]

To the original fraud rj: I really appreciate what you did. Ross Jeffries teaches ''how to become a better human and how to properly interact with people'' and he's just unable to be friendly and joke.

When I read the message you received:

''Hey...moron....when you open the conversation accusing me of being a fraud, do you think I'm so stupid I won't notice it? "Fraudrossjefries"? What the fuck kind of stupid troll are you? Go back to PUASUCKS or wherever you came from. ''

Again, I realize that Ross is a living example of hypocrisy. How can guys see him as interesting when in fact he's unable to write and often speak quietly without feeling the need to insult or neg people.

mrboxingfan wrote: ''Want a seminar, see Kezia or 60 or soporno'' Is it a joke??? What does Kezia know about being a man and being rejected by women? She's an attractive woman who can easily select the man she wants to fuck. She knows nothing about the average male condition.

[puassuck]

Originally Posted by the original fraud rj

Our good friend Ross figured it out.

lol! He thinks I am you OFRJ.

[puassuck]

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

Ross said that if I pay the speed seduction techniques will BELOW me and it will help me COME on the women in a non creepy way.

I am ashamed of my stupidity. I had no idea you were trolling Awakening. The original post sounded unhinged, that would have been a clue, but anybody seriously interested in SS must be unhinged.

Originally Posted by Awakened4570

I want to learn SS from Ross. I spoke with him about the 7 day bootcamp via Skype, he is going to crash at my crib. Luckily, we have a pretty nice guest room. I think we are also going to go see that new movie rock of ages. I will give everyone a report on how it goes.

God, I am stupid. I guess I read this casually without thinking much.

[mrboxingfan]

Originally Posted by Guru of Auto Enroll

Go fuck yourself.

Pimping Kezia. Priceless...

No, women do that, GO FUCK YOURSELF. Seem to have trouble with the ladies RSD ROGER ?

You talking from the other side ?

[the original fraud rj]

Originally Posted by Aldo

To the original fraud rj: I really appreciate what you did. Ross Jeffries teaches ''how to become a better human and how to properly interact with people'' and he's just unable to be friendly and joke.

When I read the message you received:

''Hey...moron....when you open the conversation accusing me of being a fraud, do you think I'm so stupid I won't notice it? "Fraudrossjefries"? What the fuck kind of stupid troll are you? Go back to PUASUCKS or wherever you came from. ''

Again, I realize that Ross is a living example of hypocrisy. How can guys see him as interesting when in fact he's unable to write and often speak quietly without feeling the need to insult or neg people.

Here is my rebuttle to Ross Jeffries, AKA Paul Ross. I hope he responds.

Idiot? That is pot calling the kettle black.

You and your idiotic teachings are a detriment to lonely, social-inept men that you prey on.

You are no better then David DeAngelo, Neil Strauss, Adam Lyons and rest of the so-called Seduction Industry. Basically hyping worthless products that won't change men's lives, stringing men along when they can't get results, and then unwilling and/or unable to demo in-field to prove your merit, or staging interactions to try to validated your "teachings."

I wasted over 2 years of my life using your junk-science and want to warn other men away from you.

It will be a day long remembered once you FINALLY go out of business.


On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Ross Jeffries <ross@seduction.com> wrote:

Hey...moron....when you open the conversation accusing me of being a fraud, do you think I'm so stupid I won't notice it? "Fraudrossjefries"? What the fuck kind of stupid troll are you? Go back to PUASUCKS or wherever you came from.
Idiot.

[gravitycantforget]

Originally Posted by MurdocIsGod

Why doesn't Ross Jeffries post here anymore?

i suspect he is too busy banging HB10s